[Units] Let us recruit previous tiers of units - non upgraded units

167 votes

After you buy an upgrade for a building, the non upgraded version is no longer available for recruitment.

I suggest that you allow us to recruit these, as sometimes it will be tactically wise to do so, or you don't have the resources to buy the upgraded version currently.

Currently not planned Suggested by: Game kNight Plays (16 May, '22) • Upvoted: yesterday • Comments: 10

Comments: 10

16 May, '22
Iván
But You could build the nota upgrades versión in other square, lets Say if You have 2 medium buildings for arleon You can make an castle and a upgrades castle
16 May, '22
Game kNight Plays
Taking up an extra slot however...
20 May, '22
Kvorum
Very important and necessary function, definitely YES!

big inconvenience arises when you want to buy an army from another city, and they only offer the purchase of a grade version, but there are times when a lot of the usual version has already accumulated
28 May, '22
UU
Basic and upgraded units having two separate pools within a building make no sense to me.
25 Jun, '22
Mecharion
I dont see the benifit to have the non-upgradet units in addition... please explain the thoughts behind - i dont see it. If its only the price - then no..
30 Jun, '22
Bandaro
Pipers for example - basic unit adds +5 initiative, while upgraded one adds Offence. You would usually want unupgraded version aswell to juggle the battle order to your advantage. However if you lose starting pipers then you are doomed, since you cannot recruit them anymore. And there's no reason to build 2 piper houses, since you only need few 1 unit stacks of them to give you a buff, it's very inconvenient you cannot recruit basic version.
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28 Aug, '22
ker
It's also a noob trap for some creatures that require additional resources to recruit for upgraded version and don't for un-upgraded. I don't think there is any way to know what an upgrade costs so you can lock yourself out of a unit if you don't know what to expect.
23 Nov, '22
Moderator Admin
The game is designed to have choices, so if you choose to upgrade your dwelling it will no longer produce the vanilla version, that's a consequence of the choice. It's intended and we can understand that sometimes it doesn't feel like a fun thing, but we believe it makes the game better.
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21 Mar, '23
Watcherzero
Other units its a pain to not have the option to recruit un-upgraded units to complete a stack but you can work around that and for almost all units they are simply better more expensive versions. With the dragons however they are fundamentally different units, the 1st tier is a pretty good archer but the 2nd and 3rd tiers are melee units. Often you want to build a balanced army that includes both melee and ranged and the Shaman are a pretty weak ranged unit due to their much shorter range that makes being able to recruit the tier one dragon to help fill out your armies very important.
09 Apr, '23
Ichthyos
"The game is designed to have choices, so if you choose to upgrade your dwelling it will no longer produce the vanilla version, that's a consequence of the choice. It's intended and we can understand that sometimes it doesn't feel like a fun thing, but we believe it makes the game better."

Then you should not have OTHER unit upgrades dependent on building an upgraded building for a completely different unit.

Example: You MUST build upgraded tinker building to get upgraded factory building. These need to be entirely independent decisions. Fine to require tinker basic to upgrade factory, not so to be forced to build UPGRADED tinker building to accomplish same. you are then FORCED to use the tinker upgrade, which many of us think is actually worse than the basic unit, and certainly strategically different in usage.